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Veils,Niqabs and Burkas.

Posted by skyhawk on September 9, 2007 - 5:00pm

Elections Canada intends to allow Muslim women to wear their religious headgear during the voting registration process and in the voting booth. Again, in order to appease a minority group and show stupid political correctness, long standing Canadian traditions are being turned upside down.
I wonder whether or not I would be challenged by Canada Election officials, if I were to try to exercise my voting rights at the next Provincial elections wearing a"ZORRO" mask,hat and cape.



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Sometimes I wonder

It is posts like these that really somedays make me wonder why I even bother with this website. I mean, it costs me money, it saps my time, it gains me a lot of headache and wakes me up at night calling to be fixed or restarted, and then it attracts totally asinine drivel like this.

Really Walt, pardon my French, but ...

  • Exactly what skin off your backside does this policy cost you?
  • How exactly do your rights suffer to allow someone to wear what they wear every day when they vote?
  • What possible blasted business of yours is it?

Please. Do tell. Do enlighten us so we may be informed.

This isn't being Right Wing, so don't hand me that Bullshit. This is neither big-C nor little-c 'conservativism'. This is just being a narrow minded petty and arrogant xenophobic idiot. (I originally had a shorter word in that spot)

More to the point, please, do tell us all

  1. What does this rant of yours possibly have to do with South Bruce Peninsula?
  2. What possible interest could it be to the thousands of tourists and residents who frequent this site?
  3. Indeed, pray do tell what possible connection allowing or dis-allowing ethnic dress in the poll booths could have to anything but your own sad and twisted self-righteous sense of what you and you alone think should be declared proper for everyone else ... which, if I remember correctly, is not any declared precept of any free democracy, appears nowhere in our national constitution, and is nowhere enshrined in our Bill of Rights.

Do you mean to say you would wish to be the one to stand there at the North Toronto polls to rip the bourkas off the young daughters of Islamic Canadians who had come there to exercise their democratic rights?

As to your Zorro mask, maybe you're more kinky than I imagine, but I have trouble imagining that you wear that mask every time you appear in public, and I have real trouble believing that your priest has asked you to wear it so as not to excite the women folk, but benefit of the doubt if you do choose to do so, then please, sir, do so. Wear it to the polls if that is your way, and do let us know when you do, because I'd love to float front page a picture of it.

In the meantime, excuse me while I recontemplate precisely why I should bother to spend my time keeping afloat the public vehicle for stupidity like this, especially when CFOS would likely give you a weekly-poll for just such junk, I feel our once-upon-a-time SBPeninsular is today far from relevent.

It has, instead, it seems, instead sunk just as low a base common denominator as the all rest, and is, hence, quite redundant.

Bull.

Garym, this time I think you went over the top. As usual you only find critism and offer no real solutions of your own. I would say that you clearly showed your frustrations today. While you may have a different view on this or any other political subject, I would never refer to your or anybody ellse's comments as bullshit. My comments are always intented to perhaps change somebody's political mind or broaden someone's horizon on the political, social and LOCAL issues of the day.
It is obviuos from your pretty strong comments that you can not cope with patriotic and conservative opinions. If you enjoy to wrap yourself in a radical socialistic political blanket then that's your business. But your personal attack does little for me to change my views and convictions.
If you wish, it's your right to ask me to refrain from any further expression of my thoughts through this medium. I did enjoy myself until reading your comments of today.

Please remember an old saying: Allen Menschen recht getan, ist eine Kunst die niemand kann. (Nobody can please everybody all the time, or something like that_

Gary, don't forget why..

Don't forget your original intention for SBP. I'll remind you and everyone, including trolls, what it is about HERE.I wish comments like Walt's would be left to a personal blog, certainly not meant to be front page in a community blog about life in SBP.What does it hurt me, if someone wears a veil.What does it hurt me if they wear a hat? My son(who is heading to afghanistan in the army,so am I a left wing pinko and him too?)will be able to vote wearing a gas mask and helmet and full chemical suit if need be.RCMP can vote wearing full uniform, Rabbis can wear yarmulke's, nuns can wear their full gear..
I think Walt has chased away Sabrinus with his silly irrational attacks, I usually just ignore them, but I find his comments very UN sbp like, no matter what political leanings.Well, lets not let you be chased away.I know you better than that :)
Ive been away from posting for a bit, but as of now Im back, and together all of us can get SBP back on track.
For the record Ill remind you of a few famous(yes they are) quotes from Garym:
"There are enough reasons out
there in Reasonland to keep nearly anyone in a constant supply ;-) "
or:
"I'm ceasing to reply
from this point as any words here rendered in pixels are clearly
irrelevent to what you choose to see. I'm not interested in your politic,
or blanket assumptions without at
least one concrete example. "
I have a stock of troll b gone..want some?
;)

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"How does one "Seem to think"? Either you did or you didn't! "
-ZenGary

Holy Doodle

I agree, I do not think this site is meant as a vehicle for this type of agenda (skyhawks post). It waters down the meaning of what this site is supposed to be, and that is issues directly affecting the area, water, pollution, what's going on,. . . and to connect as a community.

This site is a valuable one and those of the SBP area are very lucky to have it. (Thanks Gary, many do appreciate your time,dedication, and wonderful philosophical answers).

Those that have views that are inconsistant with the purpose of this site, as bub has mentioned somewhere else here, should have their own personal blog to rant and rave, and get their own "traffic". I am sure they will have copious amounts of clicks from returning readers ;) . This site should not be used as a springboard for these types of issues (the original post here).

If I want to read this crap, I will search it out elsewhere.

Wrong turn at Alberquerque

Thanks for the nudge Bub, and certainly it was you and Sabrinus and Dodge and VinylGirl and others who did take a run at my ideal, and I have to thank you all and be thankful for all of that. For those who wouldn't make the leap to the click, what Bub refers to is probably this:

The Peninsular is a guide to our home for our visitors, a living documentary for those who call this place home. The Peninsular collects our memories, tracks the issues, the concerns, the dreams and the stories that come together to tell us who we are.
[ South Bruce Peninsular: The New Voice ]

But now I have lived 4 and a half years into that future, and far from bringing the community together, we have a magnet for blowing them apart. Not just Sabrinus, even KeeMay has found other, better venues for building communities online, and they don't involve the town or the lake or the skies, they are worlds away from anything here and maybe that's the way things should be. Folks in the community don't need an online channel, they already have their ways of connecting, their network of friends and their ways of keeping in touch, keeping connected. Most everybody has Facebook now, and as KeeMay put it, "Nothin' ever happens around here" -- nothing worthy of a journaling, anyway.

So while I do welcome you back and while I still do harbour that secret and probably selfish desire to have this community journaling idea leave the Story of the SBP'ers indelibly online, I really have to question if it is either doable by this route, and if it is even desirable. Maybe the days of "Tell us a story from 'ome" are gone, replaced by HBO specials the way big-screen TV has replaced family conversations at our MacDonalds, anachronisms that just don't belong ... or maybe they do belong, but just not in this format, not on this site, with this software, not under this name.

So I'm undecided right now. I can't fault Walt for being who he is any more than I could fault the rest for keeping their stories private, that's just the way everyone is. Maybe the whole public journal thing was just too far out there -- I was thinking of something like those fabulous folk-art displays from the town fairs, the pictures, quilts, children's poems and drawings, only I wanted to scrap-book them for the whole world to see, but maybe other folk don't want their stories told. Maybe that whole model isn't a valid assumption. Maybe Town Fairs are meant to be fleeting things, stuff you only maybe remember seeing sort of kind a faintly and would forget if not for the crumpled photo you found in a drawer.

So I dunno. I have to think about it. Something went horribly wrong somewhere along the line, took a wrong turn at Alberquerque maybe, I dunno, somethin' -- gotta do some rethinking about it all anyway and decide whether to turn back, press on, or just pack it in and call it a day.

did you look at the post below?

Did you look at the post below the link I put up? it was by a *tourist* asking to help find shelby, and later she posted shelby was found..now THAT was cool..:)
thats what sbp is about(or is that aboot?)

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"How does one "Seem to think"? Either you did or you didn't! "
-ZenGary

What KeeMay actually said

Clarification: I did not say, "Nothin' ever happens around here". My almost exact wording is, "I do not feel a sense of community." Besides, I do not like politics. So, I stay away.