Hey CLONETHREESIXATE...YOU'VE BEEN
SMOKIN' THAT STUFF AGAIN! I'm planning to respond
in detail, but not until I can somehow
scrape all the Horsesh-- out of your posting.
You must have been at a different meeting,
maybe at Meaford or perhaps some SMOKY
LaLa Land??? You seem to have a Burr
up your Bum about the Mayor...are you
by any chance, a member of the "Shadow
Council"??....More later...Zodiac.

I'm not sure which meeting you attended last evening but no time was anything mentioned regarding a "building permit". The issue was the "transfer of land" from the Town to the people responsible for the Medical Clinic.

It has been a frustrating situation but it did not start with this council and Mayor.

I read with complete disinterest another article written by a high ranking member of the Towns shadow council, drivelling on inaccurately as is the custom of this group. It was none other than the BIA's answer to beauty,grace and charm, Jim Turner. I heard he was selling. What's the holdup??? I'm sure when a prospective buyer meets him and views his thriving, well organized and tidy business,the sale would be imminent.No? Must be Gwen's fault!! She's sneaking in there late at night and smoking up a storm so the interior smells like an ashtray. The former president of the BIA(has since resigned) seems to disagree with Jimmy boys account of what happens at BIA meetings. She says she's disgusted with the constant bickering between the members according to a report in the Sun Times. There is an old saying which can be slightly altered to illustrate the ramblings of the entire shadow council-- "Those that can, do... those that can't, skew and blame.

Sorry I missed Jim's letter. I suppose I can always go into the store to get an update on the way things are according to Jim but I do tend to get him spun up. I think he likes Gwen secretly that is why he kept his store open after the election. I should ask him about that........

In the sun Times today the article said
"One new family doctor has already agreed to set up an office in the new clinic and another one is interested. But they won't come if the clinic isn't built, Marj Lipka, chair of the board of the Sauble Area Medical Clinic Inc., told this week's council meeting"

Doesn't anyone on Council think this is bit far fetched? I mean what doctor is she referring to? It has to be somebody who is semi retired or wants to do charity work because you sure won't make a living at Sauble.

We know Sauble area has less than 1000 permanent residents for winter mail delivery. That is some kind of patient list. If you are going to establish a family practice you need support services for radiology, lab work and physio. Are these also part of the clinic?

Normally a clinic takes 50% of the GP's income and provides staff, parking, record keeping and other services. I assume this one is the same and that Lipka has a business plan that works. Has anyone thought to ask?

In Ontario cities a patient list of 1500 - 3000 is possible but won't pay the rent in a big clinic. A lot depends on the age group you service. In my business a top earning tradesman can make over $200,000 and I would guess a doctor should make $300,000 net of clinic fees. Most new graduating interns will go after that target and they won't be going to Northern Ontario or Sauble Beach to home in on it. One specialist where I live is reported to have a patient list of 35,000. He can run through them too.

So, what kind of doctor wants to come to Sauble Beach? Sure there are lots of neck quackers , hole whish tic practioners and doctors with newly minted degrees from U of Nigeria around and there are probably enough patients in the summer for one or perhaps two days of office hours. If Lipka says one doctor is willing to set up did anybody ask who and for how many hours a week and will that pay for the investment in a clinic and will everybody still have to go to Owen Sound or Wiarton for routine support services and off hours emergencies?

I just wonder about the optics of this thing. It looks a lot like Dick Thomas promoting a costly school in 1993 that is barely above water now and sinking. Lipka must have a supply of rose coloured glasses too.

Only thing is the shadow council doesn't have to play it by the book. They won't be held accountable if a gamble turns bad.

I am well aware of the hard work the community has put into this. Still I would want to see contracts, commitments backed by performance bonds and zero risk before Council goes past the point of no return on this project. They were right to put the brakes on, lets get some questions answered and proceed only if the ducks line up.

the "biuld it and they will come" line of thinking just dosn't cut it anymore other than in baseball films.
I objectively think that regardless of the politics the clinic has been an ongoing project and to even in the slightest, most inadvertant, without malice or mean spirited way to doubt the group or individuals sincerity regarding the passion and committment to biulding the medical center should be avoided . If for no other reason than other than a show of respect to the committment to community and its growth ( notice I avoided the word development :) ) And we all know the time and effort to get things this far. The wish to hurry up government when the wind is starting to pick up and the candle is begin to flicker should be not only expected but encouraged. Get it done before its finally snuffed.

Now I have to ask Gary if this is possible, can I go back to those old postings and take out the words Carl Noble and insert another name and visa versa. I keep reading how people are going after this shadow cabinet or council for the negative comments and obviuos agendas. But when I first started to tune into this program some of these same people were encouraging and egging on those who were against the previous mayors "projects" and decisions and how they should continue to keep the pressure on him and the rest of council by posting or Letters to the editor. I guess it isnt the message, but the messenger.
Illegal??? can that fall under civil actions as well..

Not EVERYBODY takes money as the most important consideration when choosing a job or career.

It should be relatively easy to get a response from the Bannister family regarding the conditions on the grant of the Bannister property to the township. I'm not sure if Marilyn Bannister is still with us (Bob Bannisters wife) but I know for certain that his son Bob Jr is around as he is on the radio every day. A bigger question is why would anyone choose property designated as parkland for a clinic? Surely there are other properties that have clear title and are just as suitable. Too bad the old township office got sold ... it would have made a perfect clinic. Now you have to die to get any use out of it. Perhaps the Sauble school could be converted to a clinic.

Carl Nobles delegations and questions to council are truely annoying. Doesn't he realize that he was soundly defeated in the last election and that a majority of the voters don't care what he thinks. Some people just don't get it.

Following the proper legal course is the only way for our council to proceed. It seems that Carl and his cronies are trying to railroad another one of their agenda items through council before anyone can stop them.

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