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 <title>Bad Water, Good Politics</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Some further update news on this saga, &lt;a href=&quot;http://sbp.teledyn.com/node/914&quot;&gt;Mayor Gilbert is pushing the feds for answers&lt;/a&gt;, and let this be a lesson in karmic law for those planning sneaky moves: &lt;i&gt;You just never know WHO is going to someday end up in a position of power&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;signature&quot;&gt;garym: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teledyn.com&quot;&gt;ict evangelist&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://justus.teledyn.com/&quot; title=&quot;Just Us&quot;&gt;musician&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.teledyn.com/&quot; title=&quot;Have blog, will travel&quot;&gt;whatever&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:19:10 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>garym</dc:creator>
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 <title>Willie passed right over</title>
 <link>http://sbp.teledyn.com/node/887#comment-1769</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;This comment has been moved &lt;a href=&quot;http://sbp.teledyn.com/node/888&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:42:37 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>garym</dc:creator>
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 <title>Willie Passed over?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Ruftic&lt;br /&gt;
I bet the little rodent is dead, that picture has not changed, right down to brown piece of stale lettuce, notice the absence of Turds!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:38:30 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ruftic</dc:creator>
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 <title>Sandy Sammy Sandhog</title>
 <link>http://sbp.teledyn.com/node/868#comment-1700</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dickestel.com/artifacts.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dickestel.com/images/tbluegrass1123.jpg&quot; style=&quot;float:left; margin: 0.4em&quot;/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;maybe not such a crazy idea that - good alliteration and google shows that &#039;sandhog&#039; is certainly an un-pwoned meme-handle, so it has definately got some market mindset possibilities ...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;

and we know now that it costs a mere thirty-grand to &#039;sell&#039; your groundhog, so I wonder what they&#039;d charge to take out a white-winged scavenger ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;i&gt;garym pauses to contemplate what $30,000 could do poured into the once mighty but now dwindling sandfest, but then decides maybe he better not&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;signature&quot;&gt;garym: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teledyn.com&quot;&gt;ict evangelist&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://justus.teledyn.com/&quot; title=&quot;Just Us&quot;&gt;musician&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.teledyn.com/&quot; title=&quot;Have blog, will travel&quot;&gt;whatever&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:40:59 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>garym</dc:creator>
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 <title>Now I gotta move my plans</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Now I gotta move my plans forward 6 months!&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been planning on kidnapping Wiarton Willy, illegally transporting him and re-branding him as &quot;Sauble Sam&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
k.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:43:21 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>theboyk</dc:creator>
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 <title>thanks for clarification</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;hi hockey17,&lt;br /&gt;
thanks for clarifying the properties for me.  maybe when the wiarton tim&#039;s is opened it will relieve some of the summer traffic jams in hepworth.&lt;br /&gt;
kltpzyxm&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 13:47:39 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>mxyzptlk</dc:creator>
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 <title>Tim Hortons</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;mxyzptlk, you are mixing up 2 different properties . The new Tim Hortons is going in where the elementary school was located( bottom of the hill). Kirkland property is the old High school on the top of the hill west of the lights off Wiarton&#039;s main street.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I also agree with your comments about Carl and his cronies. My question to Carl is when he was mayor in 2000-2006, why didn&#039;t he and council vote to sign over the property? From 2003-2006 he had total control of council and all votes went his way, either 6-3 or 7-2. Why didn&#039;t he vote then? Why blame the new council?? Was it because he knew he&#039;d be breaking the law?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 07:52:31 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>hockey17</dc:creator>
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 <title>Outdoing Bruce Nuclear using &#039;invisible&#039; Lake-Wind Power</title>
 <link>http://sbp.teledyn.com/node/700#comment-1135</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;This comment has been moved &lt;a href=&quot;http://sbp.teledyn.com/node/894&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:57:26 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>garym</dc:creator>
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 <title>RE:Clorine in water</title>
 <link>http://sbp.teledyn.com/node/700#comment-1134</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;in England, the state government of New South Wales has adopted a policy to use Oxone and ionization techniques for all water treatment. In effect, this policy has caused the sole use of chlorine to be outlawed. Oxone is a combination of several powerful oxidizers that disinfect water, though not as effectively as chlorine. When used in conjunction with copper and silver electrolytes, however, Oxone is comparable to chlorine as a disinfectant. A small amount of chlorine is still used to â€œburn outâ€ any remaining bacteria and maintain a blue color in pool water.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other techniques being researched involve the use of oxone, hydrogen peroxide, ultraviolet light, and any combination of the three in conjunction with greatly reduced amounts of chlorine.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:28:37 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>billywings</dc:creator>
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 <title>Re: Wiarton-Keppel Airport and wind</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Dodge; you&#039;ve got me envious of your wind generator but I;ll have to wait for a few years.  I don&#039;t know about your hopes of turning the airport into a wind farm.. It doesn&#039;t have the potential that other ares have:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ontariowindatlas.ca/ms/mapservEn?lang=en&amp;amp;layer=speed80&amp;amp;layer=province&amp;amp;program=/ms/mapservEn&quot;&gt;Ontario Wind Atlas&lt;/a&gt; ..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The section around boat lake to Wiarton is better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for nuclear energy. It is the most expensive energy available.  We still don&#039;t have any way to properly store the wastes and the big kicker:  The plants are not guarded from lunnies in little planes that want to become martyrs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which province do you think exports the most power to the US.  Not Quebec, it&#039;s Manitoba.  We just don&#039;t have the infrastructure to bring their excess capacity our way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the industrial complexes.  I help make the steel that you use to make your cars from.  The capabilities for cogeneration are enormous but the companies want see how the hydro rates will go.    A further potential is waste steam for local heating.  The major steel plants could all be self sufficient if they wished.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t like Kyoto either.  Without the US, China and India agreeing to it&#039;s controls it&#039;s doomed for failure.  The only good thing about it is that it&#039;s a start. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan O.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:25:40 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Dan O.</dc:creator>
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 <title>I Have A Wind Generator</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Bought it at an auction in Tobermory in 1974 and I figure it was used there in the time 1930 to 1935.   I restored it and have had it running and there was a time when I had to know everything about converting moving air to electricity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I moved on.  I am skilled trades and I work for a large auto manufacturer in Ontario.  We need power in our plants and lots of it and even a small blip is a huge problem.   Next to us is a plant that melts scrap steel with electricity and makes rebar and angle iron. Along with cement it is the raw material for building the industrial complexes in this province.  These complexes are in Alliston and Sarnia, Hamilton and Welland, everywhere and they generate the gross domestic product that keeps the province humming.  My point is we can&#039;t get along without nuclear power here in Ontario. Few of the anti nukes understand how much power we need. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We cannot meet the Kyoto 2012 targets without causing a lot of damage in Ontario and it is an open discussion whether we can make a difference in fifty years at all because the climate models are just too full of variables.  David Suzuki, Nicholas Stern and Al Gore are just a little too far removed from the trenches but Suzuki if true to his scientific training would recognize the problems. Instead he is a proponent of the idea that doing nothing will destroy the economy and meeting Kyoto will save it.. I think we need a middle ground in Canada and Suzuki is not about to join us there. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All the things you listed yes they make a difference and going forward we need to be smart in the way we build and the way we live. I like the idea of wind power as a supplement to the grid and I think Wiatrton -Kepple Airport would be an asset to our communities if it was the basis for an energy park.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:38:44 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Dodge</dc:creator>
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 <title>He has changed</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Dodge; he didn&#039;t seem too pestimistic as he appears to still have faith in humans to make the right choices but I admit it was more of a sermon than a presentation.  You jest about us having a Utopia in this area.  In comparison to Toronto which would you prefer?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You don&#039;t need to cut out cars, just drive less or get one that&#039;s more efficient.  Motorcycles are pretty efficient as they go so what&#039;s the problem?  Snowmobiles and boats; my favorite boat uses a paddle so I&#039;m OK and a snowmobile is an alternate form of transportation in this area.  Pretty good on fuel too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wood heat can be done without excessive pollution (EPA stoves) and the fuel is renewable.  Wind and solar were his prefered options over nuclear.  Won&#039;t the Bruce be self sufficient when the last of the Ferndale turbines are installed?  On the beer, somethings you have to splurge.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t forget geothermal Dodge.  Even the earth up here has some warmth.  You forgot about population density.  With the way taxes, water charges and lack of services are going that becomes moot point.  If we can just keep spending money on studies and never install anything overdevelopment will never happen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back to reality, you have to admit that if we don&#039;t do something voluntarily the options will be limited and changes will be forced on us.  Remember the cost of gas last summer?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan O.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Dan O.</dc:creator>
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 <title>Suzuki&#039;s Not Much FUN</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;So what does Suzuki figure you need to live in utopia in Oliphant?  No cars, no boats, no snowmobiles, no motorcycles and no wood heat most likely. No electricity unless the wind is blowing hard.  Anything that releases carbon is bad and that pretty much relates to anything that is fun...  He would really be upset if he caught you brewing beer. That process releases a lot of carbon dioxide.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had the priviledge of attending one of his lectures in 1975 while I was an undergrad at U of G.  He talked about genetics and science and he was sharp as a tack back then.  Gene sequencing was just getting started and he spoke with knowledge and authority. I am so very disappointed with what he has become since those days of idealism and optimism.  Quite a difference now he comes across as a pessimistic doomsday preacher trading on a fine reputation made decades ago. Climate change theory is theater for good and bad science tainted with politics.  Theater now seems to be what Suziki loves most.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:33:17 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Dodge</dc:creator>
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 <title>Aim for the stars</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I attended the David Suzuki lecture in Hamilton last night.  His basic premise is that we should not be voting for any political party this election (soon to come) unless your candidate will give complete answers on what he/she will do to stop global warming and other environmental issues.  Vote not based on party but on the answers from your local candidate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I got from the whole thing is that we have a relative utopia up here.  There are some warts, but we should be aiming &quot;for the stars&quot; on any changes to what exists now.  Why not install the &quot;best&quot; sewage treatment? Why not install ozonated water systems?  If they were installed will they in fact improve the life of the avergae resident or will they create more development, more pollution, more problems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you don&#039;t aim high from the start you&#039;ll always end up with less than you hoped for.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan O.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:48:24 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Dan O.</dc:creator>
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 <title>  Just make sure the pickle is</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:s9gGh3HyEh3VsM:http://purple-&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just make sure the pickle is kosher, or natural..and that it doesn&#039;t contain &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0033821.html&quot;&gt;TARTRAZINE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;**********************************************************************&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Did A.J.Krapper organize a mass walk-out of latrines?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
                                               -zenGary&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:07:20 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>bub</dc:creator>
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