South Bruce Peninsular - 'Tis the season - Comments

Local Geography

Dan O. — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:48:07 -0400

On the same type of topic there's the local distortion of place names. My better half's home town of Palmerston is a perfect example. You can tell a local a mile away if they just say that one word : Paaal-mer-ston.

Dan O.

Back atcha

zodiac — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:00:25 -0400

Gary...I concurrr with you on the "YOUS" thing, but try
this...next time you hear it used...ask them to spell it,
and you might be surprised when you get their answer
"YUSE". Congratulations, by the way, on your pick-up of the
use of the "Dyed-in-the-Wool" thing. My "Died-in-the-Wool" was
just a test...and you passed with flying colours (Plse note
Cdn. spelling which my spell check always corrects to the Yankee Style)...however, in spite of your language astootness,
as I reread your piece, I got this feeling that you are
moving in the direction of becoming almost as "Pedantic" as
Conrad Black...and you know where he is going??? Zodiac

In any event, sincere thanks for all of
your input..You stimulate my thinking!!!

Z is for Zo What

garym — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:03:15 -0400

Thanks for that link, Bub! As a childhood devotee of the b/w television masked-man Zorro -- pre-school, I was Zorro, when I wasn't Supercar scientist Doctor Horatio Beaker or dashing debonair with cuffs unbuttoned as Sir Francis Drake the Gentleman Pirate -- it is personally most interesting to learn that the very shape of our dear friend Zed is in historical point of fact none other than an ancient and noble Mark Of ZORRO! One and the same. I knew it in my heart.

And yeah, my bad for not following the lead of many here on the SBP and providing references on my pronouncments, but it is a general arrogance policy of mine to never cite any source unless it is myself ;) and so there is (was).

In other news, we have, on our first day, extracted about two litres of sap ... only 38 litres more to go and a whole lot of boilin' goin' on and we'll have our first fine done it ourselves bottle of The Sweetness! You can, of course, follow our sugar mapling progress through our boys' blog.

garym: ict evangelist - musician - whatever

time for a poll?

bub — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:34:48 -0400

Now how did we get from syrup to zed? Irregardless of how yous guys got us here ;) Maybe its time to bring back the famous Teledyn Poll that used to be forefront on that other blog...:D on how we pronounce it..searup surup or srup :)

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zed or zee..the debate continues..

bub — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:22:24 -0400

I have heard all kinds of arguments for using zed and zee, the one I like best is, " do you call it a zedbra or zebra", to which comes to mind the response" so is it a zeeoo?" This really means what we need to do is hire a consultant, after all consultants come in every shape and form, and Im sure there is a zed/zee consultant to help us along the path.
All kidding aside(noone get your knickers in a knot) I found a page supporting what Gary said HERE

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"Did A.J.Krapper organize a mass walk-out of latrines?"
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Remembering our History

garym — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:04:27 -0400

Being neither dyed nor dead, but being a fan of language and communcations, I found this particular Canadianism quite interesting, so I looked it up -- there is good evidence you may have your causalities tied up wrong because 'yous' is the Old English form that has been largely usurped by your urban-fueled invaders foisting their Imperial officialdom on traditions stretching back into unfathomable depths of history. That it shows up still to this day in the rural New World is perhaps due to the all-too-common heritage-story of fleeing the persecution of the afore-said Imperial foisterers driving them first here on wooden ships, and then progressively eating away at their lands by profiteering land development, driving the more sober good enough for grandpa is good enough for me folk out into the hinterland.

That's a good yarn in itself, but it could well simply be that the same tenacity which brings folks into these long comment-chain discussions here on the Peninsular is that same bit of stubbornness that would let the rootsier sorts retain their idioms of language, even in the face of rampaging Academic Pronouncements of What Is Right.

Which is, you may be proud to note, a particularly Ontarian thing, most evidenced by that recurring faux battle in the media every decade or two wherein the Self-Appointed Guardians of Canadianisms run chicken-littling around with their heads cut off fearing the Americans are crushing our children into saying "Zee" ... when, in point of fact, it is a much documented phenomenon that the spontaneous adoption of the local linguistic idiom shifts them over to a very strong Maple Leaf Waving Zed long before they hit middle school. Linguists muse that the reason this effect is so very strong here in Southern Ontario may be precisely because you are all nearly completely surrounded by Americans and their media, and especially their multi-billion-dollar Early Childhood Education Media. Yet you, I and even all the kids now senior at the Peninsular Shores, they all say Zed.

Now here is the really funny part: historically, the original speakers of English said 'Zee'!!! And you guessed it, they were long since trampled and coerced by the harbingers of What Is Right and Correct into dropping the ways of their forefathers and going with the New Thing.

garym: ict evangelist - musician - whatever

The English Language Struggle

zodiac — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:43:32 -0400

I'm a died-in-the-wool Canadian, but
I must admit that I prefer the distinct
So'thern expression of Y'All. It is
a softer way of referring to the "Plural" of our Species
I don't care a rat's ass, about the
individual's level of Education...
I just cannot abide the word "YOUS"
I must say that I abhor it almost as much
as the use of the
NON-WORD "Irregardless"
Zodiac.

A Call for a New LA!

garym — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:42:06 -0400

Yes, indeedy, I move that we immediately requisition some tidy sum, say ... $45,000 for an immediate Linguistic Assessment into the cultural impact of and factors pertaining to the delicate balance of those who say "SEA'rup" vs those of the "SUR'up" persuasions. Indeed, Mr Speaker, I move that we extend said LA and furthermore, for an additional $12,000, leverage the process of that LA to include impact and dispersion studies as to the prevalence of diaspora who say 'yous'!

Surely there's a will and the means in Council for serious questions such as these! Did I mention that my nephew is an expert linguistic assessor? No? Slipped my mind it did.

... hmmm ... and then there's those who say "s'rup" ... these assessment things do get fuddled fast, they do, don't they tho'?

tip: while the blackstuff goes with everything it is worthy of footnoting that a quart of the 1/40th volume sap makes a durn fine glucose substitute in your regular ale-making recipies!

garym: ict evangelist - musician - whatever

Guinness and maple syrup

KeeMay — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:03:53 -0400

I see.

If we do yield some maple syrup, let's have a bbq party. Guiness and maple syrup certainly will go well together:)

the recipe

bub — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:46:48 -0400

But I assume guinness will be used in it ;)
http://www.oddtodd.com/tuesday111.html

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"Did A.J.Krapper organize a mass walk-out of latrines?"
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"Searup or surup?" will be a

KeeMay — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:39:09 -0400

"Searup or surup?" will be a much more entertaining bebate than all those I have read here recently, indeed:)

We have done a little research and do know that the ratio is 40:1. Since we have only borrowed 3 sets of equipment from our friends, you may actually get one or two drops if our project is a success.

What is that maple bbq sauce you mentioned?

great project May

bub — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:51:09 -0400

It's is very important for children to do exactly this kind of thing, build memories,while having fun with mom and dad, sugaring off has been a forgotten pasttime, glad to see you doing this.I expect you to save me a drop or two ;)( Word has it Gary can make a mean maple bbq sauce.)
Oh, you do know that the average sap to syrup ratio is 40 to 1 , but it will be worth it!
Now that eternal question for everyone..how do you pronounce it "searup" or "surup". Cant wait for the debate about this!
:)

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"Did A.J.Krapper organize a mass walk-out of latrines?"
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'Tis the season

KeeMay — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:27:35 -0400

Yep. It's time to tap those sugar maple.

Inspired by the sight of buckets sitting beside numerous trees just around the corner from our house, the boys want to try and make some maple syrup this year. I gleefully took on a science project.